Toon Fan Gets A Reply From Humberside Police

Last updated : 05 March 2014 By Footy Mad - Editor

Pardew will not be subject to a police investigation over his behaviour at the weekend ... but one Newcastle supporter questions why.

 

Humberside Police Chief Inspector Rich Kirven said in a statement: "We have been working with the FA and the football club to progress the matter appropriately.

"Having reviewed the circumstances of the incident, it has been agreed that the matter will be dealt with by the FA rather than considering any criminal proceedings.

"There has been no complaint received from the player involved or Hull City Association Football Club at this time.

"Whilst we appreciate that some people may have found the behaviour displayed at the game on Saturday offensive, Humberside Police will not be taking any further action."

But one Newcastle supporter was charged at Hull back in 2009 and he was banned from St James' Park for three years.

I'm sure all Newcastle fans who travel away know Mr Barrett.

Dear Chief Inspector Kirven,

 I note with great interest that you as Chief Inspector for Humberside Police have decided to take no further action against Mr. Alan Pardew, manager of Newcastle United Football Club after he head butted a Hull City player in the KC Stadium Kingston Upon Hull on Saturday 1st March 2014. An incident shown and witnessed by millions on television.

 I was involved in an incident myself at the KC Stadium on 3rd January 2009 which resulted in a 3 year banning order from all football stadiums in Great Britain, and a £1500 fine, I still have the video evidence of the incident as I am sure you do, I think most witness's would agree there is no difference in the level of violence used in both incidents.

 I appeared twice at Hull Magistrstes Court and I funded my own appeal at Hull Crown Court, I remember very clearly how this point was made to me by the magistrate, '
 Mr.Barrett, you must remember where this act of violence took place, inside a football stadium, anyone, (anyone, Chief Inspector) who commits an act of violence at the KC Stadium will be punished by an automatic 3 year banning order, we will not tolerate this kind of behaviour in the City of Hull'

 I quote below the Government statute for issuing football banning orders,

 'Civil' Football Banning Orders - s. 14 B - on Complaint

 From the 6th April 2007 prosecutors are able to apply for a 'civil' football banning order. The court must make an order if satisfied that the respondent has at any time caused or contributed to any violence or disorder in the UK or elsewhere and that there are reasonable grounds to believe that it would help to prevent violence or disorder at or in connection with any regulated football matches.

 For s.14 (A) and (B), "violence" means violence against persons or property and includes threatening violence and doing anything which endangers the life of any person.

 Also, disorder includes:

 stirring up hatred against a group of persons defined by reference to colour, race, nationality (including citizenship) or ethnic or national origins, or against an individual as a member of such a group,
 using threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or disorderly behaviour,
 displaying any writing or other thing which is threatening, abusive or insulting.
 Most importantly, the terms "violence" and "disorder" are not limited to violence or disorder in connection with football.

 The courts are given a wide discretion of what to take into account in making a s. 14B Football Banning Order; this includes decisions of foreign courts, evidence of deportation back to the UK, removal from football matches wherever this occurred and conduct recorded visually - e.g. CCTV.

 The court can look at the conduct of the responded for up to ten years before the application for the making of an order.

 If one is unable to proceed to a conviction for a (football) relevant offence in all circumstances, it may still be possible to apply for an order under s.14 (B). Prosecutors should discuss this with police officers prior to the hearing.

 I think the first paragraph is extremely relevant in Mr. Pardew's case considering his track record for violent incidents inside football stadiums.

 So, In summary Chief Inspector, I was wondering if you could answer this simple question,
 Why are you not prosecuting Mr. Pardew for his act of violence at the KC Stadium ?

 Yours Sincerely,

 Keith Barrett

Here's the chief inspectors reply.

Keith,

Thank you for your E mail, I don't know the circumstances of your banning order so I am unable to compare the two incidents to rationalize my decision making in this case.

From what you have outlined there are clear differences within the circumstances of each incident, the first being that Mr Pardew is a member of the playing staff and that you were at the football match as a supporter.

In the case of Mr Pardew there are other options for dealing with his behaviour other than through the criminal courts, this presumably wasn't the case for you, these options include his club and the Football Association.

I know that both have already taken action against Mr Pardew, the club giving Mr Pardew a significant fine and the FA charging him with an offence which I'm sure when sentenced will have significant implications on his ability to manage his team in the near future.

As part of my decision making I have discussed the option of a criminal investigation with both the Football Association and Hull City Football club. Neither supported a criminal investigation and were content for the matter to be dealt with through the FA as they felt that this was both appropriate and proportionate.

Having looked at the full circumstances of this incident, I have to say I am in agreement with the other parties and believe that allowing the FA to sanction Mr Pardew is the proportionate way to deal with this regrettable incident.

 regards

 Rich Kirven
 T/Superintendent Operations
 Clough Road Police Station
 Kingston upon Hull

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